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(就当科普吧..)伪基翻译:凯撒军团

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发表于 2011-11-17 04:01:18 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
译自维基百科,有删节。

“My Legion obeys me, even unto death. Why? Because they live to serve the greater good, and they know of no alternatives.”

—Caesar, Fallout: New Vegas

“我的军团唯我命是从,虽死而不辞,为什么?因为他们知道他们是在为更伟大的目标效命,而且,没有选择的余地。”

——凯撒,辐射:新维加斯

founded by 创建者
Caesar 凯撒
Joshua Graham 约书亚•格雷汉姆

Leader 领导人
Caesar 凯撒 (2247)

Notable members 重要成员:
Joshua Graham (formerly) 约书亚•格雷汉姆(前成员)前军团特使
Lanius 特使勒留斯 现任军团特使
Lucius 卢修斯 现任禁卫队长
Vulpes Inculta 沙漠之狐 现任斥候队长
Ulysses (formerly) 尤利西斯(前成员)
Aurelius of Phoenix 菲尼克斯的阿尔留斯 棉木湾指挥官
Silus 修卢斯 被俘百夫长
Gaius Magnus 盖留斯•玛格努斯 第87个部落的征服者
Dead Sea 十夫长死海
Alexus 十夫长亚历克西斯
Severus 十夫长塞维卢斯
Antony 安东尼 军团训犬者
Cato Hostilius 卡托•霍斯提留斯 刺杀总统任务中的军团斥候
Karl 卡尔 驻大可汗使者
Picus 彼修斯 军团间谍,化名罗兰德•寇蒂斯上尉
Atticus 精兵阿提修斯 军团补给官
Salt-Upon-Wounds 伤口撒盐
Beast (formerly) 野兽(前成员)分水岭marked man
Blade (formerly) 利刃(前成员)分水岭marked man
Blister (formerly) 水肿(前成员)分水岭 marked man
Bonesaw (formerly) 骨锯(前成员)分水岭 marked man

Locations 主要地区

Headquarters 首都
Flagstaff 弗拉格斯塔夫市

Arizona亚利桑那州:
Arizona Spillway 亚利桑那溢口
Blackfoot Village 黑足谷
Flagstaff (capital) 弗拉格斯塔(首都)
Grand Canyon 大峡谷
Phoenix 菲尼克斯
Two Sun “兔桑” (图森市)
Willow Beach韦罗滩

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Colorado科罗拉多州:
Denver 丹佛
Dry Wells 枯井区

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Fort Abandon 废弃堡

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Mojave Wasteland莫哈韦:
Caesar's Legion safehouse 军团安全屋
Cottonwood Cove 棉木湾
Fortification Hill 堡垒山
Legate's Camp 特使大营
Legion raid camp 军团劫掠队营地
Nelson 尼尔森

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Utah犹他州:
Great Salt Lake 大盐湖
Salt Lake City 盐湖城
Spanish Fork 西班牙辐克
Syracuse 雪城

Connections关联组织

Divisions 分支

Blackfoot 黑足部落
Fredonians 费多尼部落
Hangdogs 训犬者部落
Hidebarks 海德巴克部落
Kaibabs 凯巴布部落
Ridgers 山脊部落
Sun Dogs (….)表示无解,求帮助
Twisted Hairs 卷发部落
Dead Horses (formerly) 死马部落(前成员)
Great Khans (ally) 大可汗(盟友)
Omertas (ally) 静律帮(盟友)
White Legs (prospective) 白足部落(发展中)

Related 相关组织

Followers of the Apocalypse 天启追随者
Mormon Church 摩门教会


Caesar's Legion is an autocratic, ultra-reactionary, utilitarian slaver society based on that of the old Roman Empire, founded in 2247 by Caesar and Joshua Graham, and led by Caesar since that time. Its legionaries are a well-organized, culturally insular fighting force that, as of 2281, mainly operate east of the Colorado River and the Grand Canyon, in the former state of Arizona. Their capital is the city of Flagstaff. The Caesar's Legion is comprised mostly of reconditioned tribals and their descendants. The Legion's symbol is a golden bull on a red field which is derived from Julius Caesar's standard for the Tenth Twin Legion.

凯撒军团是一个脱胎于古罗马帝国的独裁主义,极端反动,唯利是图的奴隶制社会团体,由凯撒和约书亚•格雷汉姆于2247年建立,并迄今为止仍由凯撒统治。它的军团成员都是训练有素,忠心耿耿的战斗力量,在2281年主要活动范围在科罗拉多河东岸和大峡谷地区,位于战前的亚利桑那州,军团首府是弗拉格斯塔夫市。凯撒军团主要由被其征服的部落以及他们的后代组成。军团的旗帜(红底金色的公牛)来源于古罗马的尤利乌斯•凯撒第十军团。


Background
Main article: History of Caesar's Legion

Edward Sallow and fellow Follower of the Apocalypse Bill Calhoun along with seven other members were sent east to study tribal languages. Along the way, they met a new canaanite missionary named Joshua Graham, who was a specialist in tribal dialects. However, not long after meeting up with Graham, all ten were captured by the Blackfoot tribe and held for ransom. At the time, the tribe was at war with seven other tribes, a war they were inevitably going to lose.

背景

主题:凯撒军团的历史

爱德华•萨罗夫与他的天启追随者同事比尔•卡尔霍恩以及另外7名成员组成的小队被派往东部研究当地的部落语言。在半路上,他们遇到了一位名叫约书亚•格雷汉姆的新珈南传教士,此人是一名部落方言专家。但是,在不久后10个人全被当地名为黑足的部落扣留并勒索赎金。而此时,这个部落正在进行一场同时面对其他7个部落的必输无疑的战争。

Unwilling to be destroyed along with them, and against the wishes of his companions, Sallow chose to use his knowledge to train the Blackfoot tribe in the art of warfare after witnessing their lack of knowledge firsthand. He showed them how to clean and maintain guns, operate with small unit tactics, create their own explosives, and strike at their weakest enemies first, using the strategy of divide et impera - divide and conquer. He quickly impressed them enough that he was made their leader and took the name "Caesar".

因为不情愿成为战争的炮灰,虽然队友对他的行为并不认同,萨罗夫还是在目睹黑足部落缺乏与战争有关的第一手技术后选择用自己的知识训练他们。他为他们展示如何清洁和保养枪支,运用小队战术,制作爆炸物以及由弱到强的击败敌手,使用“分而治之”——个个击破的战术,他给部落留下了深刻的印象,并最终承“凯撒”之名成为部落的领袖。

He also introduced the concept of total war to the tribes around them. They defeated the weakest of their enemies first, the Ridgers. Once they had been conquered, Caesar ordered every man, woman and child put to death. When they confronted the next tribe, the Kaibabs, they brought an emissary back to view the carnage. Caesar knew that though the tribes had always fought each other via occasional skirmishes, he considered them to only be "playing at war". The concept of total war was an entirely new, and terrifying, facet to his strategy that they had never confronted before and would form the core of the Legion's tactics and outlook. Eventually, all seven tribes were either destroyed or incorporated in what became known as the Legion.

他同时也给他们带来了“全面战争”的概念。首先被击溃是一个弱小的敌人,山脊部落。 当他们投降之后,凯撒下令不分老幼处死整个部落。当他们面对下一个敌人,凯巴布部落前,他们带领对方的使者观摩了一番他们制造的屠场。凯撒深知,这些部落虽然经常以散兵游勇的方式互相争战,但对他来说,这不过是在“玩打仗”。全面战争的概念是全新而恐怖的,面对凯撒的战略这些部落在军团所具有的的远见卓识和战术面前毫无招架之力。最终,全部7个部落或被催毁或被整编成了今天我们所知的凯撒军团。

Caesar and Joshua Graham, now known as "the Malpais Legate", used the power base they established to attack and press more tribes into the Legion. For decades, they fought and absorbed lesser tribes, erasing tribal identities and shaping them into a massive, fanatically loyal army that, in Caesar's eyes, embodied the concept of perfect post-nuclear society. By 2271, the Legion had conquered 86 tribes and become by far the largest and most dangerous organization east of the Colorado. They clashed with the Desert Rangers in Arizona and nearly crushed them before the Desert Rangers were integrated into the NCR. In 2277, as a sign of their growing power, the Legion advanced westward toward New Vegas and created what would become their main base in the Mojave Wasteland: Fortification Hill. It is in the Mojave that they made first contact with the New California Republic.

凯撒和约书亚•格雷汉姆,后来的“特使马耳佩斯”,率领新建立的军团基础进攻并征服了更多部落进入军团。10年后他们击败并吸收小部落,抹杀掉他们的特质并将他们融入一个巨大的,高度忠诚的军事集团中。在凯撒眼里,这就是在为一个完美的核战后社会构造概念。2271年,已经征服了86个部落的军团成为了科罗拉多河以东最为庞大而危险的组织。他们与亚利桑那州的沙漠游骑兵作战并在沙漠游骑兵并入新加州共和国之前几乎完全消灭了他们。在2277年,作为他们不断成长的标志,军团开始向西面的新维加斯挺进,并建造了堡垒山作为他们在莫哈韦废土的基地。也是在莫哈韦,他们第一次接触了新加州共和国。

The Republic would have the dubious distinction of being recognized by Caesar as a worthy opponent. Under the command of the Malpais Legate, Legion forces marched against the NCR garrison at Hoover Dam, in an attempt to take the strategic asset and river crossing. In what became known as the First Battle of Hoover Dam, the Malpais Legate initially had the upper hand. The Legate was able to push the NCR defenders back and lead his forces over the dam. Lead elements of the NCR, including members of the 1st Recon Battalion and NCR Rangers, executed a tactical retreat west across the dam and into Boulder City, all the while using their marksmanship prowess to kill the Legion officers (primarily centurions, and decanii). The Legate, unable to adapt his strategies in combat or see the deception unfolding in front of him, chose to order his legionaries to push the rangers, not knowing the NCR had booby-trapped Boulder City, packing C4 along their line of retreat and within the city itself, and drawing the Legion into a trap. When the Legion forces entered the city, the NCR detonated the explosives and inflicted severe casualties among the Legion forces, crippling their offensive. The NCR forces then counter-attacked, pushing back and eventually routing the Legion forces who fled east back over the dam. Caesar, angered at the failure of his Legate, made an example of him. The Praetorian Guard covered the Legate in pitch, set him on fire, and cast him into the depths of the Grand Canyon. Caesar forbade mention of his name, and now he is spoken of only in hushed whispers by the lowest Legionaries and slaves; they call him the Burned Man

共和国可能被凯撒认识为是一个重要的对手。在特使马耳佩斯的领导下,军团的势不可挡首先逼迫新加州军退守胡佛大坝,之后便尝试占据有利资源和渡口。这就是为世人所知的第一次胡佛水坝战争,特使在战斗开始后首先占得上风。他成功的将新加州防御部队逼退并拿下了胡佛大坝。新加州军的精锐部队,包括第一侦查营和新加州游骑兵,向西进行了一次穿过大坝的战略撤退并撤入博尔得市,同时沿途运用他们精湛的狙击能力不断射杀军团的指挥官(诸如百夫长和十夫长)。而无法应付这种战术,或者没能看穿其中陷阱的特使,则选择指挥他的士兵向游骑兵发起追击,却没有料到新加州军已经在他们撤退的路线上和伯尔得城中布下了大量C4炸弹,并将军团诱进了这个圈套。当军团部队突进城中后,新加州军引爆了埋伏好的爆炸物而对军团造成了巨大的人员伤亡,以此扼制了他们的攻势。新加州共和国军队随后借势反击,击溃并最终将军团赶回了大坝以东。凯撒因特使的失败勃然大怒,决定将他以儆效尤。凯撒的禁卫队将特使浇上沥青,点火,并将他扔进了大峡谷中。凯撒严禁军团提及他的姓名,而今此人的名字仍在低阶的军团成员和奴隶间低声耳语,他们称他为被焚者。

By 2281, Caesar's Legion has re-established its power in the west, rebuilt its army, and has slowly encroached on the city of New Vegas. They continue to contest NCR over all of the region, destroying several NCR bases such as Ranger Station Charlie and Camp Searchlight, overrunning the NCR town of Nelson, and creating unease and terror across the region. Sometime before the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, the Caesar's Legion has conquered a new tribe under the command of centurion Gaius Magnus, bringing the number to 87.

到2281年,凯撒军团已经重建了他们在西部的势力,重新整编了部队,并缓慢的向新维加斯伸手。他们仍然在每个地区和新加州共和国对峙,破坏了多个共和国基地如游骑兵哨所:查理和探照灯营地,占领了新加州的尼尔森镇,并在整个区域散播不安和恐惧。在第二次胡佛水坝战争前,凯撒军团已经在百夫长盖留斯•玛格努斯的指挥下征服了一个新的部落,将被他们征服的部落数量增加到了87个。



Society
This horde of cruel, yet highly disciplined slavers has spread across the southwest like an all-consuming flame. Founded by a fallen member of the Followers of the Apocalypse, Caesar's Legion is effectively an enormous, conscripted slave army. As Caesar conquers the peoples of the wasteland, he strips them of their tribal identities and turns their young men into ruthless legionaries and women into breeding stock. They are well organized, moving and attacking in large packs, and deliberately commit atrocities to terrorize those who might dare oppose them.

社会

这个残酷,但高度纪律性的奴隶制群体像席卷一切的野火一样横扫整个西南部。由一个堕落的天启追随者建立,凯撒军团是一个强有力的巨大,军役制奴隶军队。被凯撒所征服的废土住民都被他抹杀了曾经的部落特征,青年男性被改造为冷酷无情的军团士兵,女性则沦为生育机器。他们组织严密,群体行动,并全心全意地将他们的残暴施加于那些胆敢对抗他们的地区。

The ideology of the society is based on the idea that, due to the weakness of humankind brought about by the atomic bombs, the chance now exists to unite the world under one flag. By using brutal and militaristic tactics, the Legion can take advantage of the weakness of the world to create one united society, and Caesar claims that the atomic bombs were sent by the god of war, Mars, for this purpose. This goal is often used by the Legion to justify their tactics and way of life.

这个社会的哲学来源于以下理念:人类被一场核战争削弱了。现在正是将全世界统一在一面旗帜下的大好时机。通过暴力和军事化的方式军团能克服旧世界的弱点并创造一个统一的世界,凯撒同时声称是这正是战神玛尔斯降下了核弹清洗世界的原因,这个目标经常被军团用来为他们的生活方式和战略辩护。


Caesar's military is comprised of all able-bodied men in his society, as well as any children they encounter in their conquests. They train these children, alongside their own, to become dedicated legionnaires. The legionnaires themselves are taught to fight to the death for Caesar, and are often very hard to stop because of this. Any adults they meet, however, are killed to prevent any sectionalism in the Legion, and their cultural identities are erased to prevent factions from being formed; tattoos are scraped and burned, families are split apart and mixed breeding is enforced to destroy any old loyalties. The Legion's military is structured after the army of the Roman Empire. The largest unit of organization in Caesar's Legion is the "Cohort", numbering about 480 infantrymen. Cohorts are further divided into "Centuriae", which contrary to their name numbers about 80 men(Accurate to the ancient Roman army as a Centuriae consisted of 80 professional soldiers and 20 noncombatants), and each Centuriae is divided into ten "tent groups" ("Contubernia"), making this the squad level of organization. Raiding parties are of this size (about eight men) and will be led by a Decanus (squad leader).

凯撒的军队包括了他治下所有身体健全的男性,同样还有被他们征服者的后代。军团成员亲自训练这些孩子,直到他们成为唯命是从的军团士兵。这些军团士兵都被灌输了为凯撒的事业奋斗终生的歪理,而且因为这个原因他们都是一等一的死硬分子。他们会杀掉任何遭遇到的成年人以防止他们对军团内部可能造成的分化,而他们自身的文化特征也都被统统抹去避免拉帮结派;纹身将被割去或烙掉(卧槽),原由的家庭将拆散和增殖以摧毁对旧势力的忠诚。军团的军队构成则照抄古罗马。凯撒军团中最大的部队编制备称作“大队”,由480名步兵组成。大队再被划分为数个“百人队”,和队名不同这个单位只有80名成员(正儿八经的古罗马百人队含80名职业士兵和20名非战斗人员),每个百人队再被分为10个“帐队”("十人队"),即班级单位。攻击时的小队也是这个人数(一般是8人一组)并由一名十夫长(班长)带队。


Currency
Caesar's Legion uses two old forms of currency which were also used in Roman times. They are minted by the Legion in the form of silver and gold coins, each coin bearing the profile of Caesar. Despite Caesar's poor relations with the other factions in New Vegas, Legion currency is still accepted as payment in the Mojave Wasteland, owing to the high level of trade with the Legion and the safety of its territory for caravans. The exchange rate is 4 bottle caps to 1 Denarius, and 100 bottle caps to 1 Aureus.

货币

凯撒还从古罗马直接抄了两种老款货币来用。他们被军团制造为金银两种铸币,每枚硬币上都印着凯撒的头像。虽然凯撒和新维加斯周边各势力关系都比较糟,但军团货币仍然在莫哈维废土上流通支付,这要归功于军团的地盘对商队所具有的安全性和交易量。军团货币的兑换比是4瓶盖对1银币,100瓶盖对1金币。


The Denarius (silver), which bears an image of a younger Caesar on the obverse and Caesar, Joshua Graham and Calhoun on the reverse. The inscriptions are in Latin, "Caesar Dictator" meaning "Dictator Caesar" or "Absolute Ruler Caesar" on the front and "Magnum Chasma" meaning "Great Abyss" or "Great Fissure" on the back, referring to the Grand Canyon. The symbolism is simple - the denarius commemorates young Caesar's journey to the Canyon and his first victories as a dictator of the tribes.

军团第纳尔银币,正面是青年凯撒像,反面则是凯撒、约书亚•格雷厄姆和卡尔霍恩,正面的拉丁文铭文"Caesar Dictator"意为“独裁者凯撒”或“专制者凯撒”,背面的"Magnum Chasma"意为“大深渊”或“大裂谷”,指大峡谷,这枚硬币寓意显而易见——凯撒青年时在大峡谷的旅行和作为部落独裁者的第一次胜利。



The Aureus (gold), which bears the portrait of the older Caesar on one side and the symbol of the 10th Legion (the bull) on the other. The inscriptions are in Latin, "Aeternit Imperi" meaning "Eternal Authority" on the front and &quotax Per Bellum" meaning &quoteace through War" on the back.

军团奥里斯金币,正面是老年凯撒像而背面则是第10军团标志(公牛)。正面的拉丁铭文"Aeternit Imperi" 意为“永远的独裁”,背面的&quotax Per Bellum"则是“和平自战争中而来”。

Religion
In 2250, Caesar declared himself the Son of Mars, ordered by the god to conquer all of Earth, and the cult of Mars, as well as Caesar himself is the religion followed by the Legion. Members of the Legion believe that in order to prepare the way for Caesar, Mars cleansed the Earth with fire and it is his son's duty to save the Wasteland from barbarism and chaos. It is not known whether any of the other Roman gods are revered as well. Most members of the Legion, excluding some of the most trusted ones, are oblivious to the fact that the Legion's culture is based on books about ancient Rome - they believe that all of the customs enforced by Caesar were dictated to him by Mars himself.

信仰

2250年,凯撒自号战神之子,奉神之命降世征服大地,而战神教团,还有凯撒本人自然也就受到军团的信奉。军团成员相信这是在为凯撒铺路的过程,战神用核火清洗地球而他的儿子的使命则是从野蛮和混乱中拯救废土。而其他的古罗马诸神则谁都不知道。大部分军团成员,除了少数知晓军团的文化是照抄古罗马书籍的凯撒心腹,都认为所以凯撒要求的制度都是战神本人亲自要求的。

Structure


The Legion society is largely hierarchical. Anyone outside its ranks is considered to be Dissolute (lacking in morals), while those that are both outside of it and hostile (usually the NCR and its subjects) are called Profligates (slightly more dissolute). Freshly caught humans are called Captures and are considered the lowest of the low. Their only right is to be tested as a slave. If they do not meet the requirements, they are killed.

社会结构

军团社会是个大型的等级社会。所有军团社会外的人都被认为是二流子(缺乏道德者),而不但是外人还态度不好的(通常是新加州共和国成员)则被叫做不良分子(比二流子还麻烦一点)。刚抓到的人口称为战俘,是底层中的底层。他们的唯一做用就是测试能不能成为奴隶,如果不合格,就做掉。

Slaves are one step above Captures and consist of captured humans unfit for combat duty as a Legionary. They are expected to adhere to the virtues of a slave (Honestas, Industria, Prudentia - honesty, industry, and prudence) and follow their master's orders without questions. They are given a new name and wear rags with a light red X painted over the chest. During the Capture stage, slaves seem to be forced to wear slave collars. Later, when they have been "broken in" and transported deeper into Legion territory, the collars are removed as seen with the slaves at Fortification Hill. Children of slaves are taken from their parents after birth and placed in the care of priestesses, who raise them in keeping with Caesar's doctrine. Physically fit males are chosen to serve as Legionaries.

奴隶是战俘中那些被认为不适合成为军团士兵承担作战任务的。他们被要求要有奴隶性(Honestas, Industria, Prudentia ——忠心,吃苦耐劳,老实)并唯命是从。他们都被安插了个新名字和一件胸前打了个大红叉(军团标志)的破衣服。在被俘时,奴隶会被强制戴上奴隶项圈,之后,当他们“习惯”并被运送到军团腹地以后,像是在堡垒山的奴隶,项圈会被去掉。奴隶的后代将在出生后辈从父母手中夺走并送到凯撒的女祭司手里,他们将在那里成长并被灌输凯撒教义。体质合格的男性将被选出成为军团士兵。

Legionaries are the main fighting force of the Legion and form the bulk of its society. Composed of capable men conscripted into service, Legionaries are expected to demonstrate the height of Roman values. Advancement in ranks is purely merit based - if a Legionary proves himself in combat, he will be promoted. If he doesn't, he'll be lucky to escape with his life.

军团士兵是凯撒军团的社会主体和主要作战力量,军团士兵被要求展示罗马标准的先进性。级别的晋升依据简单的论功行赏——如果一个军团士兵能再作战中证明自身价值,他就会晋升。但如果不能,他就要自求多福了。

Military
The entire Legion military army is led by a Legate, who answers only to the Caesar. In addition to this, the Legion's forces have two special branches, the Frumentarii, who are tasked with infiltration and subterfuge, and the Praetorians, whose sole role is safeguarding the Caesar. A few are also assigned to protect the Legate.


                    

军事

全体军团部队由一个特使指挥,特使只受凯撒一人辖制。除此之外,军团还有两支特种部队,斥候部队,负责向敌境渗透和进行间谍活动;禁卫队,作为凯撒的贴身卫队,少数情况下也会下放保护特使。

Unlike the NCR Army, Legionaries are not organized by rank but by direct combat experience. The most inexperienced of them, recruits (equivalent to pre-Marian Hastati or post-Marian auxiliary skirmishers), wear the simplest of garments and are usually marched in the front line. Survivors of multiple skirmishes can expect to be recognized as prime legionaries and considered for Decanus status, or may simply be marched in the middle of the ranks (equivalent to the pre-Marian Principes).

和新加州共和国军队不同,军团士兵不按军衔而是按作战经验进行编制。最缺乏经验的新兵(轻步兵,或侧翼散兵),装备最烂,冲的最前。他们中拣回一条命的将会编入主力的军团士兵,甚至提拔成十夫长,也有可能只是稍微升一点(相当于普通士兵的水平)。

The most experienced of Legionaries, veterans (equivalent to pre-Marian Triarii), make up the rear guard and join battle only if recruits and prime legionaries fail to meet their objectives. This practice is not a matter of rewarding elite soldiers for their service; by allowing the Legion to hold the best warriors in reserve, the practice forces an enemy weakened by previous waves to engage the fiercest Legionaries.

最有经验的军团士兵们,也就是精兵(或者,老兵)作为后备力量直到新兵和主力兵都被对手打垮时才会登场。这样安排并不是对长期服役老兵的奖励,军团懂得好钢用在刀刃上的道理,这种编排使最强悍的军团部队可以从容料理已经被几波军团士兵轮软了的敌人。

The main commanders, centurions and the Legate, are also the deadliest members of the Legion. Unlike their counterparts in the NCR or any other organization, each has reached their rank through their battlefield accomplishments, and their armor reflects that fact - it is made up of trophies taken from defeated enemies. However, they rarely enter the battlefield, as they are few in number and possess valuable leadership skills. The loss of a centurion will likely result in a dramatic loss of unit cohesion.

军团的主要指挥官,百夫长和特使,也同样是军团中的狠角色。和他们在新加州军中的同行不同,他们都是从战场上砍过来的,这些战绩体现在他们的护甲上——他们的护甲是由被打败敌人的装备战利品拼装起来的。不过他们倒也很少亲临前线,和他们优秀的指挥才能在军团中一样少。一个百夫长的倒下可能造成整个军队的崩溃。

A special post in the Legion military is the Vexillarius (standard-bearer). The standard-bearers carry the sign of the Legion into battle and act as rally points for Legionaries.

军团部队中还有一个特殊兵种:掌旗官。掌旗官负责在战场上负责军团的旗号,并充当军团士兵的临时集结点。

The discipline of legionaries is absolute. In combat, they obey every order without question and if needed, will gladly sacrifice their lives. The reason for this is simple: punishment for failure is severe. Legionaries that fail will be lucky if they escape with their lives. Those that fail will often be crucified or hacked to pieces by Praetorians in front of Caesar. It is also possible that the Legate will invoke decimation, where every tenth legionary will be beaten to death by his comrades as punishment. Life expectancy in the Legion army is low - any Legionary who can survive extended service is a formidable opponent.

纪律保证了军团士兵的绝对服从。在战斗中,他们会毫无疑问的服从所有上级命令且在必要时毫不在乎丢掉性命。理由很简单:败者提头来见。能再失败后还侥幸活下来的军团士兵无疑是幸运的,而更多的失败者则被钉了十字架或者在凯撒面前被禁卫队捶成肉酱。有时特使也会采取什一抽杀法:每报数到第十个的军团士兵就会被其长官击杀作为惩罚。在军团里人命不值钱——能一直混下去的军团士兵都是些神人。

While this disciplined style of warfare is extremely effective, it does create a few very exploitable weaknesses. Soldiers in the legion are trained to obey their superiors in all situations; this often makes the Legion troops, especially recruits, slow to adapt to changing battlefield situations. If the officers and veterans are eliminated, the chain of command will be in severe danger of collapsing. With recruits unable to control the situation, the leaderless army will become disoriented and confused, ultimately rendering it easily routed or wiped out. Under the command of Chief Hanlon, the NCR demonstrated and exploited these weaknesses to great effect during The First Battle of Hoover Dam.

虽然令行禁止在战场上很有效,但这也不可避免的会出问题。军团的士兵受到的训练使他们会在所有状况下服从他们的长官;但这经常导致军团部队,尤其是新兵很难快速的对战场情况变化做出反应。如果一个军官或精兵被放倒了,整条指挥链就有可能崩盘。因为新兵没有办法控制局势,缺乏指挥官的部队很快就会陷入混乱和困惑,然后他们就只能任人宰割了。在汉伦军士长的指挥下,新加州军就是在军团的这个严重弱点上赢得了第一次胡佛水坝战争的胜利。

The Legion excels at melee combat, as evinced by their choice of weaponry - primarily, the machete, which cripples limbs. They are not adverse, tactically speaking, to using firearms - scouts carry hunting rifles, while ranked Decanus may use a cowboy repeater. Ultimately, this leads to extremely effective Legion raids and surprise assaults. Legionaries are more versatile than the NCR troopers in that they are skilled with both firearms and melee weapons, as well as having been trained to fight aggressively under any and all conditions, whether armed or not. Legion soldiers have nearly double the hit points of NCR troopers, and fare favorably against them in battle, especially at close range. Legion raids typically involve suddenly attacking, killing everyone (sometimes taking slaves) and leaving quickly. As Lanius states, their forces are much better suited at taking positions than holding them due to their up close style of fighting. While Legion raids are often very successful, it is worth noting that the number of positions the Legion actually controls over a period of time in the Mojave is very small compared to the NCR.

军团成员擅长近战,表现在他们对武器的偏好上———通常会带上把砍刀,这是制造残废的好武器。当然他们也不排斥使用火器——侦查员携带狩猎步枪,十夫长会装备牛仔连珠枪。基本上,这使军团在劫掠和突袭时十分有效率。同时掌握火器和近战武器的军团士兵通常要比新加州士兵更加多才多艺,同样因为受过训练使他们在任何环境下都能发动猛烈的进攻,无论是否武装,军团士兵通常都比新加州士兵耐打一倍,也更希望是把他们作为对手,特别是和他们打近战。军团的突袭通常出其不意的发起攻击,统统杀光(有时抓些奴隶)然后迅速闪人。按照特使勒留斯的说法,军团部队的战术通常是找好战位,包围敌人并逐渐把包围圈缩小到足够近战范围之内。军团的突袭往往十分成功,这值得注意因为军团在莫哈韦控制的版图事实上要远远小于新加州共和国。

Relations with the outside
As a single-minded, monolithic empire, the Legion's aim is to dominate the known world and unite it under its banner. In 2281, it is locked in conflict with the New California Republic at the Colorado River. Tribes that weren't pressed into it are also openly hostile to the Legion, fearing that they too will become victims of its campaign of conquest, as even with guarantees of safety and independence, Caesar has gone against his word and assimilated tribes he previously promised he'd leave alone. This causes even ruthless organizations like the Van Graffs to oppose the Legion in addition to organizations like the Desert Rangers. However while many "civilized" groups dislike the Legion's ways, they have great success in assimilating "tribal" groups. Tribals and their general respect for power over anything else typically side with the Legion over the NCR. Ex-tribals the Omertas and White Glove Society can ally with the Legion. The Great Khans and White Legs are also firm allies of the Legion.

外交

作为一个专制独裁的庞大帝国,军团的目标就是将已知世界征服并统统收入旗下。而在2281年,他们则深陷在科罗拉多河沿岸和新加州共和国的冲突中,那些他们一时半刻解决不了的部落也公然跳出来与他们做对,凯撒害怕军团会赔进这场征服之战中,不得已收回成命并以确保他们的安全和独立做条件,接受了一些群体并答应他们自行其是。这使得即使是那些无情的团体,如范•格拉夫家族到沙漠游骑兵这样正义的组织都站到了军团的对立面上,一些更“文明”的部落则憎恨军团的行为,因为有太多部落被他们同化了。而那些认为力量至上的部落人则更尊敬军团胜于新加州共和国。那些前部落,如静律帮和白手公社都是军团的潜在盟友。而可汗部落和白足部落则一直是军团的坚定支持者。

Dale Barton often prefers to trade in Legion territories, saying that he finds it cheaper as he rarely has to hire protection or pay extortionate taxes, due to the effectiveness of Legion suppression of raiders and wasteland creatures. Even Rose of Sharon Cassidy has admitted to admiring Legion-controlled areas, as they attract traders, merchants, and wastelander communities in general to their high level of safety, especially when compared to NCR territories and uncontrolled regions.

商人戴尔•巴顿更愿意在军团统治的地区贸易,他声称这样更省钱因为他即不用花钱雇护卫也不用上税,这得力于军团清理了那里的掠夺者和危险废土生物。即使是莎朗•盖西迪(队友)也对军团控制区表示羡慕,和新加州共和国管理的区域和那些根本就三不管的地方相比,军团的地盘更能通过高度的安全性吸引商人、交易者和废土住民团体。

Technology
Caesar firmly believes that reliance on technology weakens humans, and was responsible for the Great War. As such, his Legion is mostly a low-tech organization, relying on numbers, physical fitness and discipline to achieve their objectives. A typical legionary will wear armor mimicking the Roman lorica hamata or lorica segmentata, usually created from pre-War sports gear (mostly if not exclusively football gear) armored with metal plates, including the helmet, worn over a tunic. In combat, they use either simple firearms (typically revolvers or lever-action rifles), power fists, or melee weapons in the form of machetes and throwing spears, crafted from scavenged materials that mimic the ancient Roman short sword (gladius) and javelin (pilum).

技术

凯撒坚信科学技术使人类软弱,也是科学技术导致了核大战,有鉴于此,他的军团基本上就是低技术水准的组织。只能依靠人海战术,高强度训练和严格的纪律达成目标。一个典型的军团士兵的装甲不过就是翻版的古罗马锁甲或板甲,通常都是战前的运动护具(大部分是橄榄球护具)钉几块铁板,加上头盔再套上外套。而在做战武器上他们通常使用简单的火器(一般是左轮手枪和杠杆式步枪),动力拳套,或者砍刀、投矛之类的冷兵器,也有用废铁仿造的古罗马式短剑和标枪。

However, it is incorrect to treat their technology as primitive. As simple as regular combat gear is, the Legion is capable of erecting large fortifications out of scrap (e.g. Fortification Hill encampment) and mass producing standardized weapons and armor for its footmen. In fact, the armor and weapons of higher ranking soldiers compares favorably to the NCR. In major battles, centurions will use rather advanced weaponry such as anti-materiel rifles, Marksman carbines, and super sledges. The personal guards of Caesar themselves are equipped with high tech ballistic fists to complement their martial prowess.

不过你也不能把他们真当原始人。表面上和他们水货的装备一样,军团也用废铁建筑他们的大型工事(比如,堡垒山大营)和量产武器护甲装备部队。而事实上,高阶军团成员的武器装备完全可以不亚于新加州共和国方。在几次主要战役中,百夫长都使用了相当先进的武器如反器材步枪,神射手卡宾枪,还有动力战锤。凯撒的保镖们都配备有高技术含量的霰弹拳套以增强他们的格斗能力。

While no Legion member wields energy weapons, they show interest in purchasing them from the Van Graffs. The Legion is also never shown using power armor, though pieces of what appears to be T-45d power armor are used in centurion armor. Oddly enough, the Legion has huge amounts of Stealth Boys. These Stealth Boys are never seen used by legion soldiers in the Mojave, but are used by the legion at Dry Wells and the legion Marked men at the Divide. A high reputation with the legion will lead to a steady cache of Stealth Boys for the courier.

虽然没有军团成员擅使能量武器,但是他们还是有兴趣从范•格拉夫家族那订货。军团也从来没有使用动力装甲的情况,奇怪的是军团竟然保有大量隐身小子(个人隐身装置)。而军团士兵却从来没有在莫哈韦地区使用过他们,不过在枯井区和分水岭市的僵尸化军团士兵倒是在用。如果信使(主角)在军团有着较高的声望,就有机会将军团作为一个隐身小子的稳定供应商。
发表于 2011-11-17 10:11:24 | 显示全部楼层
就凭奴隶制这点我在FNV里就和军团卯上了
发表于 2011-11-17 15:24:12 | 显示全部楼层
军团声望高给隐身小子啊(为了这个我都要加入军团) 感觉有了这个玩意 其他势力给的奖励都有够渣的
发表于 2011-11-17 20:12:55 | 显示全部楼层
就因为奴隶制,我宁愿打mod给隐身甲充电或者穿DLC3智能潜行完全版都不会去怜悯他们
发表于 2011-11-17 23:00:16 | 显示全部楼层
废土上需要这样强而有力的政权
发表于 2011-11-18 10:41:24 | 显示全部楼层
这还真应了咖啡的一段话:
军团则是一群野蛮落后的奴隶贩子,虽然自诩为罗马帝国的后继者,但是贩子终究是贩子。凯撒只是空有其表,假借历史上那位伟人之名,但既无伟人的手腕,也没有远大的战略眼光。他所擅长的,不过是奴化平民思想,建立起高度专制的独裁统治而已,统治基石仅在他一人身上。如此的结果,便是在凯撒统治下的四州,坐拥肥沃土地和庞大人口,却连修Auto-Doc的人才都没有~
自从第一次大坝之战后,军团没有大规模的军事行动,而是派遣小分队不停地骚扰,制造恐慌。凯撒的如意算盘是征服而非毁灭,就是要最大限度地掠夺权力与社会资源(这点倒与亚历山大大帝很像),以确保利益最大化。但是,他根本就不理解也不会尊重科学(虽然他曾是FOA)。在这样的统治下,社会的倒退与崩溃只是时间问题~
还有一段话:
军团是没有前途的,因为“军团”作为一个整体并没有理想和目标那些东西,理想和目标仅仅是“凯撒”一人所独有,其他人不过是不加思考地“无条件服从”凯撒的任何命令,实际上就是一个才智超群的死灵术士操纵着数以万计的无脑僵尸……
发表于 2011-11-18 10:43:13 | 显示全部楼层
补充下:我NV开了4个档,不管什么路线,都有一件事要做:杀了凯撒。打了三遍LR,最后都核平了军团~
 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-18 11:50:02 | 显示全部楼层
说实话...军团控制的领土比NCR还大(虽然人口很难计算)NCR发展了百把年的基业竟然只能和一个中二人类学家60年不到的经营平手...太匪夷所思了点...
发表于 2011-11-18 12:18:57 | 显示全部楼层
在废土上我做人的原则很简单的:Give me liberty, or give me dead.
发表于 2011-11-18 17:37:26 | 显示全部楼层
引用第7楼gql921115于2011-11-18 11:50发表的  :
说实话...军团控制的领土比NCR还大(虽然人口很难计算)NCR发展了百把年的基业竟然只能和一个中二人类学家60年不到的经营平手...太匪夷所思了点...
独裁有一个好处是没人能在政令上拖你的后腿,ncr想干点什么大事情是要开会讨论的。
何况在扩张时候,往往是越野蛮越有效率的。
发表于 2011-11-18 19:11:48 | 显示全部楼层
腐朽的民主和有效率的独裁。。。。。。有点银河英雄传说的感觉。。。。。。不过凯撒无论文武还是眼界能力都比不过莱因哈特.冯.罗严克拉姆。。
发表于 2011-11-18 19:42:01 | 显示全部楼层
引用第10楼shuchong于2011-11-18 19:11发表的  :
腐朽的民主和有效率的独裁。。。。。。有点银河英雄传说的感觉。。。。。。不过凯撒无论文武还是眼界能力都比不过莱因哈特.冯.罗严克拉姆。。
就算比得上也会垮台…只不过时间问题罢了。具体原因请看6楼。再不理智,愚蠢的人也是有觉醒的时候的。
发表于 2011-11-18 20:04:17 | 显示全部楼层

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不过感觉FNV不像3代那么多理想主义者。。。不过一厢情愿的倒是没少
发表于 2011-12-12 15:33:45 | 显示全部楼层
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軍團很不稳定.1.物資不足.2.人心不稳.3.戰意不高.4.乏善可陳,
我一一說明吧~~~
1.軍團說什麼新兵只給刀劍,說明了物資不足.同時殺人捉奴隸更加證明了物資的不足.
(一個軍團想要勝利.當權者想的是加強軍隊.有什麼都要用.物資不足只好下層的沒有武器.)軍團的只會生產刀劍,當然沒有槍給下層的人.
(只好說要磨練一下他們了.)

2.奴隸制加上女奴主義.人心相當不穩.加上胡福大坝的失敗,凯撒沒有下次了,第一次失敗已經棄車保帥.(神是不可失敗的)
第二将军可不是呆子.(失敗了要我去死.光頭你去死吧.).當凯撒不是神了.他的國家都完了.

3.戰意.叫你用刀劍打槍.還有怨言的都要死.?戰意真高啊,(士兵:TM的.有機會不走才是小白啊.)

4,不用說明吧.看到的都是.有破壞.沒建設.日日好似聖誕節.

還真的是廢土的精英呢.....
2.
物资上NCR是5洲。人心上不能只看内部,也得看外部,就像Sliver Rush的老板说的一样,大意是:我本来也不想和NCR联合,但是一看军团做的那事,再加上NCR的实力摆在那里,我觉得投靠NCR还是靠谱的。战意?有实力就有战意,子弹的战意都是永远足量的,没战意是现在NCR扩张太快,反倒整体实力下降了。
沙漠地区永远都缺水,塔克拉玛干周边打得也不少。别说新疆了,我有甘肃的同学,人家说早些时候经常有些XX到他们村周边有组织的抢水抢粮,甘肃就该奴隶制?
至于武器问题,用高新武器和发明是两把事,这种态势下去凯撒永远都是拣别人吃剩下的.
送死问题可不一样,NCR是用枪械组成火力网冲击,凯撒的青年军只能呼喊着拿刀当肉盾了,有效攻击距离和效果不一样。要是军团和兄弟会对P,估计调用的兵力就得200:1了
稳定?极少有商队来访+就靠畜牧业养活成批的士兵,稳定了有什么用?大家静坐等着被饿死?

军团有他的优点集权,但是比起现有的政权来说,他比NCR缺点更多
总之,我完全看不出来,这帮子家伙有什么能力去击败NCR,更不要说重建文明了。
发表于 2012-1-8 23:40:11 | 显示全部楼层
第一  军团 从剧情上来看 就是拥四州之兵  精锐尽出 老大坐镇   打人家NCR一个莫哈维军区。。。。

从第一次胡佛大坝战役 就暴露出了军团军队最大的弱点  匹夫之勇   整个设定来看  军团士兵没有通过训练(完全是在战场上去捡命)  没有完善的指挥体系  靠着中下级指挥官的凝聚力和士兵的蛮勇  这样的军队  对付不会使用战略只能使用粗劣战术的蛮族效果那是非常好   但是 现在他们面对的是一支正规军  有着优良的训练和完备的指挥体系的正规军  而且 这支正规军里面还有相当一部分精锐部队  军团打得过那才叫怪了。

第二  军团的经济靠着畜牧业支持起来的军团社会 没有什么工业 军团沿途造成的都是些破坏 没有见到建设   普通军团士兵的装备和武器极其低劣   而百夫长以上高级军团成员 却装备较好的武器和护甲  但是 这些武器 都不能自产  (能自产只怕人人都装备了) 所以 初步估计 这些高新装备绝大部分是货物或者战利品
          NCR在F1时期也是双头牛畜牧业支持起整个国家   在F2时期 就有完善的军工体系了   另外 拿下新里诺和地下掩体市后 NCR的工业生产能力已经相当稳定  可以稳定的为部队提供制式护甲和制式武器(包括NCR精锐部队的武器和护甲)   虽然 距离BOS和英克雷还是差不少   但是相比军团  物资方面  就高出一大截  我们知道  战争不单单只是拼人力   最主要的是拼经济 拼物资 补给什么的  军团的四州物资产量只怕还没NCR一州多  



第三 军团的社会结构是团结在凯撒这个神中间  也就是说 军团就跟古代大部分蛮族帝国和蛮族集合体一样 靠着领袖的个人魅力来形成凝聚力  一旦凯撒挂掉 或者神化光环消失   军团崩溃 那是迟早的事 另外奴隶制和性奴制度  使得比较文明一点的领土拒绝加入凯撒阵营  凯撒的军团构成基本上全是蛮族  所以 军团崩溃 是迟早
         NCR的体制就决定了 它不会很快崩溃掉   民主制保证了国家机器的完备   同时也保证了对外政策上NCR对其他势力保持文明政策        完善的经济体系和军工体系保证了物资供应  募兵制度保证了士兵数量  制式装备和严格训练保证了军队的素质   


所以 军团压根成不了啥气候  还不如F3的匹兹堡
发表于 2012-1-9 14:44:45 | 显示全部楼层
引用第14楼哔哔肥佬于2012-01-08 23:40发表的  :
第一  军团 从剧情上来看 就是拥四州之兵  精锐尽出 老大坐镇   打人家NCR一个莫哈维军区。。。。

从第一次胡佛大坝战役 就暴露出了军团军队最大的弱点  匹夫之勇   整个设定来看  军团士兵没有通过训练(完全是在战场上去捡命)  没有完善的指挥体系  靠着中下级指挥官的凝聚力和士兵的蛮勇  这样的军队  对付不会使用战略只能使用粗劣战术的蛮族效果那是非常好   但是 现在他们面对的是一支正规军  有着优良的训练和完备的指挥体系的正规军  而且 这支正规军里面还有相当一部分精锐部队  军团打得过那才叫怪了。

第二  军团的经济靠着畜牧业支持起来的军团社会 没有什么工业 军团沿途造成的都是些破坏 没有见到建设   普通军团士兵的装备和武器极其低劣   而百夫长以上高级军团成员 却装备较好的武器和护甲  但是 这些武器 都不能自产  (能自产只怕人人都装备了) 所以 初步估计 这些高新装备绝大部分是货物或者战利品
.......

现实中的罗马帝国,是被指挥装备训练后勤政体都更差的蛮族灭掉的。
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不,你错了!军团必将失败的原因不是因为什么装备训练后勤体制,而是因为:
整个军团只有凯撒一个"人"!不要忘了,凯撒从未告诉他的下级"什么是对""什么是错""什么是应该做的"。他只告诉他们"服从惟一的凯撒的所有命令",况且凯撒只神化了自己,并未神化他的思想,体制。这样的军团不可能有人继承,如果有,那么不等凯撒死掉,军团就会土崩瓦解了。
PS:iPad打字真够费力的~
发表于 2012-1-9 15:20:38 | 显示全部楼层
这里转一段别人对军团的分析:
作者:成公英
我明白了,蕾莉亚的核心观点是两个:

第一. 从一个物种而不是个体的高度上看,人类的智慧、理性和道德会而且必然会随着物质文明的消亡而消亡。也就是说,人类的物质文明达到共产主义了,人类才会有共产主义的思想觉悟;如果人类的物质文明从资本主义倒退回去去原始社会了,则人类的智慧、理性和道德观也会同时倒退回去原始社会。

第二. 历史是由极个别伟大的英明领袖所开创的,其他既不伟大也不英明的普通人,只有坚决服从伟大领袖的一切指示,才能最大限度地集中社会资源,才能实现全人类的最高利益。

从辐射系列设置的背景故事来看,蕾莉亚的观点是得到了“客观事实”的证明的:核战后两百年历史的人类文明大倒退、原始部落、食人族、土匪流寇的兴起等等,都证实了上述两个核心观点的正确性,与所有这些“之前”的背景故事相比,恺撒军团确实具有他的进步性,这是可以肯定的。

而我的核心观点也有两个:

第一. 经过核战后两百年的发展,人类文明正处于一种稳定复苏的发展阶段,“旧社会”正在逐渐复兴,NCR和军团的崛起正是最佳证明。因此。时代发展到了《辐射-新维加斯》的历史阶段,已经远远超越了战后一百年那种混沌的、无知的“背景故事”的水平。也许在美国的内陆地区,比如在恺撒亲手发展起来的4个州,因为环境险恶,生存状态仍然和战后一百年无异,复兴的脚步远远落后于加州等先进地区,因而能够把恺撒的奴隶王朝看作是对原始部落的一次重大升级,恺撒的行为在这些地区也许还能被视为一种先进的机制。

但是放眼整个美国,我并不觉得恺撒军团是一种具有普遍先进性的最优体制。关键并不在于恺撒军团的制度与废土流民相比是否存在先进性,而是在于在那个时代,还有没有比恺撒军团更为先进的体制?恺撒军团是否比除他之外的一切其他集团都更为先进,都更适合于维护人类的总体利益?我的答案是否定的。其实早从2代开始,一些具有较先进物质文明和组织形式的新兴集团就一直在不断崛起,从一个暴力团伙发展起来的NCR就是其中的佼佼者,更不要说阴魂不散的英克雷和东岸的各种组织。恺撒军团不过是从更落后地区发展出来的相对强者,率领着从穷山恶水里带出来刁民去洗劫富人,正如哥特人灭亡了西罗马,并不能因此证明哥特人的组织形式比西罗马更先进,更适合引领人类的进步。至于论证其他集团比恺撒军团先进在哪里,就由其他人去证明吧,没有理由要我一个人包揽一切。

总而言之,我认为恺撒军团既不是人类唯一的选择、不是最好的选择,甚至连比较好的选择都说不上,这也正是他为什么必须用武力去强迫别人服从的根本原因。
第二、我认为恺撒军团的最最可憎之处,同时也是他最终必将败亡的根本原因,是恺撒的心里面没有装着“其他人”。

诚然,恺撒经历了很多艰险、目睹了很多人性的丑恶,因此,恺撒对“人类”完全丧失了信心。在恺撒心目中的人类,只不过是一群没有思想、只懂苟活的动物,因而需要一个真正拥有思想、真正懂得什么东西对人类最好的“人”去“拯救”人类。在这个游戏里,这个人的名字叫恺撒;在《黑客帝国》里,就是那个把全人类都养在虚拟世界里的超级电脑。

恺撒自认为他是为了全人类的福祉而在从事着伟大的事业,但是从本质上说,他仅仅是在为自己一个人的理想而在奋斗。因为他否定了除自己以外的所有其他人的人性,他否定除了他的理想之外的所有其他人的理想,他否定除了他所想出来的办法之外还有其他正确的办法。他不关心其他的人理想、不关心其他人的欲望、不关心自己给其他人带去的苦难;他唯一关心的是他自己“认定”的别人的苦难,是他自己“认为”的对别人最好的做法,是他自己一个人“想象”出来的全人类的美好未来。在所有这些里面,只有一个人存在,那就是恺撒。

恺撒的心中只装着他自己,他只懂得自己所认为正确的就必须大无畏地去做。而其他人?那不过是名字叫做人的需要被拯救的珍惜动物而已,就像是一只名字叫做“人类”的大熊猫,不需要去介意它想要什么,只要强迫它去接受对它好的东西就可以了。

在哪一种价值观里,这样一种人可以被视为正义之士?
所以马库斯说只要离开了恺撒,军团就会逐渐消亡。因为军团就是为了执行恺撒一个人的意志而存在的工具而已,所有的一切都是恺撒一个人想出来的,都是为了满足恺撒一个人的愿望而存在的,一旦这一个人不在了,军团便再失去了继续存在下去的理由和必然性……
不用说了吧,军团粉们。
发表于 2012-1-9 19:10:30 | 显示全部楼层

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罗马帝国和蛮族对战的时候 可没有热兵器对冷兵器  
罗马帝国被灭的原因有很多 最主要的是自己内耗    另外 灭掉罗马帝国(包括拜占庭)的蛮族 在武器 战术  编制  装备还有战斗力上面 远胜罗马军团和拜占庭军队  唯一不如罗马的仅仅是文明程度 而已   且不说 匈奴族在东方和汉族最强的两个帝国争战数百年   就算是哥特人的近卫军和重骑兵 就完灭晚期的西罗马帝国  而东罗马依仗的超重甲骑兵和精锐步兵  在塞尔柱突厥人的轻骑兵面前 也是悲剧收场


另外 推荐你去看两个战史  沙隆会战和曼奇科特战役 对东西罗马具有关键性的一战
发表于 2012-1-10 10:08:31 | 显示全部楼层
內耗是羅馬帝國衰亡的主要原因之一,西羅馬的爭奪帝位,東羅馬的破壞聖像運\動(byzantine這詞就可以形容事物很複雜難懂)~
西羅馬衰敗前的幾次大敗,就是傳統的重裝步兵和軍事工程在新騎兵戰術面前潰敗的~
至於FNV的legion,目前也只是初次登場,還有很多的空白,火器軍團其實也不是稀罕物,在本部應該也有一定程度工業(雖然凱撒聲稱科技是墮落的,不過我可不覺得他是傻瓜),只是在一定程度上壓制~

也许在美国的内陆地区,比如在恺撒亲手发展起来的4个州,因为环境险恶,生存状态仍然和战后一百年无异,复兴的脚步远远落后于加州等先进地区

這個遊戲里說了,軍團治下的四州比其它地方要安全多了~
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